Proof #24: Ask why Religion causes so many Problems

January 5, 2008 at 8:23 am 5 comments

Marshall Brain objects to God in this proof by appealing to the problems supposedly caused by religion.  As I’ve pointed out here, our social mores are actually declining in comparison with the picture painted in the Bible of a good Christian.  Although the U.S. is declared the most religious country studied, it hardly chooses to practice any of the principles gleaned from the Bible.

Therefore, this proof is invalid.  This studies the population as a whole, not the specifically religious members of that population (those who actually practice their faith and not just claim to have faith).

Let’s look at it another way: is the Creator defective because His creation messed up?  Computers are dumb, stupid, ineffective machines.  Oh sure, there are some amazing software packages that ease our workload, but I think that you could make a case that computers hurt more than they help.  People rely to heavily on calculators, for example.  I generally have to make change for most of my cashiers at work if they type in the wrong numbers on the register.  The smarter the software gets, the less people in general understand the principles that underly it.

If you were to make such a case, and since we created computers, would that mean that humans are defective?  Or could you conclude on that basis that we are imaginary?  Of course not!  You could only conclude that computers are hurtful.

Again, we have only proof here that humans are defective, not that God is imaginary.

Entry filed under: Religion.

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  • 1. Christian  |  April 17, 2008 at 3:17 pm

    I became interested in where you were going with this. I find it strange you’re comparing manmade computers to a supernatural and claimed perfect god. Why would God make mankind defected in that case? If he had the ability and power (according to christianity, he does) to make them perfect, why didn’t he do this?

    This isn’t an counter-arguement for Brain, it’s simply you beating around the bush.

  • 2. Luke  |  June 14, 2008 at 11:42 pm

    Again, we have only proof here that humans are defective, not that God is imaginary.
    –Wrong. Humans are only Human and make mistakes and bad moral judgements. The only thing defective is the Gods humans have created.

    And religion has caused MANY problems throughout history. Look at the extremist Muslim terrorists of today, and the Christian Crusades just to name a few. Man has never committed evil so fully and joyfully as when they do it for their religious convictions. And if you think religion has been “good” in some cases, then consider that for much of history, religion may have been a necessary evil, but why it has been more evil than necessary?

  • 3. Anti-Devil  |  July 10, 2008 at 6:23 pm

    wat about religions who promote goodness..luke..u are really bias angainst christianity..god forgive u

  • 4. Luke  |  July 16, 2008 at 1:04 pm

    wat about religions who promote goodness
    –What about them? You don’t need religion to promote “goodness.”

  • 5. Anti-Devil  |  July 16, 2008 at 4:22 pm

    i know..wat about u don need religion to promote”goodness”?

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