Proof #25: Understand Evolution and Abiogenesis

January 10, 2008 at 4:19 am 3 comments

Here is the core of Marshall Brain’s argument:

The interesting thing to understand is that when you accept evolution, what you are automatically doing is rejecting the concept of a soul. Here is why: As soon as you accept that evolution is true, you also accept that the creation story in the Bible is false. It is pure mythology. The concept of the “soul”, which comes from the same book, is exactly the same sort of mythology.

Accepting evolution is not the same as rejecting the concept of the soul.  When something happens by natural processes, that never precludes the divine will or action.  The divine will goes before the physical act, but the physical act is the consummation of the divine will.  They go hand-in-hand with one another.  So it is here:

And when you hear the sound of marching in the tops of the balsam trees, then go out to battle, for God has gone out before you to strike down the army of the Philistines.” And David did as God commanded him, and they struck down the Philistine army from Gibeon to Gezer. (1 Chr 14:15-16, emphasis added)

And so it is with the act of creation.  Remember “. . . when science suggests that life developed through nature, yet scripture confirms that God actively developed that life, take note of 1 Chronicles 14:15-16, which clearly illustrates the biblical truth that evidence of physical mechanisms are not evidence against God’s active involvement, but are in fact the result of it” (source).

Brain adds a sidebar to help understand the “rationalization”–that is, he’s anticipating the objection that God still made mankind special.  To this, he says:

The fact that we exist as a conscious, intelligent, rational species is an accident of nature that involved no supernatural intervention. There is no part of the scientific explanation of evolution that says, “a mythical supernatural being reaches in right here and guides it.” Evolution, by its very nature, is a supernatural-free process.

Evolution and abiogenesis, taken together, remove the need for God to exist.  Before we accept this conclusion, consider this take on the old watchmaker argument as a counter to that:

Just because we understand the inner-workings of a watch doesn’t mean it had no creator.  Yet, that is precisely [what] Brain’s arguments reduce to: we understand how the watch works.  It’s even perpetually self-winding.  I cannot trace it back to a factory.  It must not have a creator.

Understanding something as complex as life to the degree that we do does not remove the need for a creator.


This post was prepared with the indispensable help of Mike the Geocreationist. Visit his excellent website that attempts to apply the truth of Scripture to the evidence of science at http://geocreationism.com.

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  • 1. Luke  |  June 15, 2008 at 4:05 am

    Accepting evolution is not the same as rejecting the concept of the soul. When something happens by natural processes, that never precludes the divine will or action. The divine will goes before the physical act, but the physical act is the consummation of the divine will. They go hand-in-hand with one another.
    –I actually agree with you here. “New age” spirituality, and even Buddhists believe in a Soul and reincarnation, and there’s no need to fear or worship a God, fear eternal punishment, or obey the most stupid biblical “laws.” Their philosophy revolves around us not being humans that are having a spiritual experience, but that we’re spiritual beings having a human experience. I’ve looked into some of it, and I like all the concepts of it WAY better than the entire theme of Christianity and the Bible. But do I just jump right in to believing it without proof? Hell no.

    http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/mgibson.htm (interview with Dr. Mitchell Gibson) and also check out the George Green interviews at that site there as well. (Free membership sign up may be required to watch the interviews)

    –The bottom line is that whatever is out there that we don’t know about or can’t see that’s just outside of our reality is simply what “is” and is just the way it is. But I know that it’s not some God who literally talked to people a long time ago and all of a sudden “stopped” because he had some kind of plan for a book that when it came to be, he didn’t have the need to talk to people and reveal himself anymore.

    Evolution and abiogenesis, taken together, remove the need for God to exist. Before we accept this conclusion, consider this take on the old watchmaker argument as a counter to that:
    –Absolutely correct in the sense that the Bible is based on the story of a God that supposedly created everything we know that exists in a few days. Evolution and Abiogenesis destroys the foundation of the Bible which is the creation story. If evolution and abiogenesis are true, then everything in the creation story right down to the spontaneous creation of the first humans is an outright lie. What are LIES doing in the Bible, which is the infallible word of God? What else in the Bible is outright lies and bad science? I can tell you right now it is a LOT of lies and bad science from the Bible to list.
    –And as far as the watchmaker argument, let’s not get into strawman arguments.

  • 2. Anti-Devil  |  July 19, 2008 at 5:49 pm

    Evolution…hmm..i think it is total bull…if u think man evolve from apes..why do u still find apes..and u also cant find half ape half man..LOL evolution!!!= BULL BULL BULL

  • 3. Luke  |  July 28, 2008 at 8:22 pm

    if u think man evolve from apes..why do u still find apes..and u also cant find half ape half man
    –Evolution is a journey, not a destination. In other words, the first cells did not have the idea to evolve into humans, it just happened that way. There are many branches in the evolutionary path. Just because one species has branched one way, doesn’t mean that all common ancestors will follow the same evolutionary path.
    –Also, your “why do you still find apes” argument is flawed. It’s like saying “why do we still find single cell organisms if every creature is already evolved from the first single cells?” Or “Why do we still find fish when huge whales and sharks have evolved?”


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