Proof #26: Notice that the Bible’s Author is not “All-Knowing”

January 10, 2008 at 4:19 am 5 comments

The crux of this proof is in the following paragraph:

If you think about what you are reading in the Bible in the context of an all-knowing God who supposedly wrote it, none of it makes any sense. But if you think about the Bible as being a book written by primitive men like you would find in the remote regions of Afghanistan today, it makes complete sense.

Marshall Brain has committed three major flaws with this line of reasoning. First, he has confused inspiration with dictation. Second, he assumes that ancient people are stupid. Third, he is passing his subjective opinion off as objective fact. Understanding these three flaws will quickly eliminate this objection.

Inspiration is not the same as dictation. This means that, while God didn’t pen the actual words of the Bible, He is the ultimate mastermind behind the pages of it. Since the Bible was authored by people of a certain culture at a certain time, that must be taken into account. Brain touches briefly on that, however he makes a terrible mistake–he assumes that the people of that culture are stupid.

Let’s put this in perspective. The people who wrote the Old Testament also invented metalworking and crop irrigation. They invented mathematics and architecture. The New Testament was written during the Roman Empire, which had running water and vending machines. Ancient people are far from stupid.

Finally, take a look at some of the verses that Brain cites:

  • For six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day you shall have a holy sabbath of solemn rest to the Lord; whoever does any work on it shall be put to death. (Ex 35:2)
  • If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death; their blood is upon them. (Lev 20:13)
  • Whoever comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and even life itself, cannot be my disciple. (Lk 14:26)
  • The grass withers, the flower fades; but the word of our God will stand for ever. (Is 40:8)

The first two verses are part of the Mosaic Law, and are very clear in what they mean. The third, from the gospel of Luke, is a hyperbolic statement from Jesus that really means you must love Jesus more than you love your family and your life. Finally, the line from Isaiah is poetry and makes perfect sense in that context.

There is nothing that is objective nonsense in these verses. Brain is pushing his subjective opinion off as objective fact. Pulling Bible verses out of context could potentially make them sound nonsensical, but that isn’t specific to the Bible. Brain must show why these verses are nonsense rather than just arguing through sound byte.

Once a person takes the time to understand that inspiration doesn’t mean dictation, ancient people are actually very smart, and that it is dishonest argumentation passing off a subjective opinion as objective fact, the objection that the Bible’s author isn’t all knowing melts away. This objection is nothing more than arguing by sound byte–Brain never substantiates why the Bible verses are nonsense. In fact, reading them in context reveals that they are not nonsensical at all. Once again, another proof that proves nothing.

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  • 1. Luke  |  June 15, 2008 at 6:06 am

    Inspiration is not the same as dictation. This means that, while God didn’t pen the actual words of the Bible, He is the ultimate mastermind behind the pages of it. Since the Bible was authored by people of a certain culture at a certain time, that must be taken into account. Brain touches briefly on that, however he makes a terrible mistake–he assumes that the people of that culture are stupid.
    –God is the mastermind behind the nonsense that is in the Bible? The creation story for example is an abomination to science and reality and is completely backwards. Yet God is the mastermind behind the author who wrote it? God didn’t “mastermind” anything because every word is that of man, and man has the free will to write whatever he wants in order to glorify himself, his culture, and his culture’s God. And yes, the people of that culture were just as primitive and ignorant of science as every other culture and their religions and creation stories.

    Let’s take a look at some of these nonsensical verses Brain mentions in his proof here that you so conveniently left out.

    Isaiah 13:13
    Therefore I will make the heavens tremble, and the earth will be shaken out of its place, at the wrath of the Lord of hosts on the day of his fierce anger.

    –Shaken out of it’s place?! What!? Shake it out of what place? It’s orbit around the sun? This verse makes no sense at all, and sounds more like a flat earth statement if anything.
    Isaiah 13:15-16
    Whoever is found will be thrust through, and whoever is caught will fall by the sword. Their infants will be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses will be plundered,
    and their wives ravished.

    –God is the biggest tyrant in human history ever created. Here we have him saying people and babies will be thrust through and dashed to pieces, and that women will be ravished, which probably means raped, and then no doubt be senselessly killed also.

    Ex 21:20-21
    When a slave-owner strikes a male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies immediately, the owner shall be punished. But if the slave survives for a day or two, there is no punishment; for the slave is the owner’s property.
    –This is absolutely ridiculous. Exodus 21:12 says “He who strikes a man so that he dies shall surely be put to death.” But here we have a verse that says that if you kill a slave, then you’ll be punished, not put to death. And if the slave survives a day or two, then nothing happens to you. And if he dies on the 3rd day, nothing will happen, either. And all of this because a slave is “property.” The slave doesn’t even have to do anything to provoke a beating because he’s property and you can treat him however you want, when you want. Not only is this nonsense, but it’s a contradiction in the exact same book and chapter.

    Brain never substantiates why the Bible verses are nonsense. In fact, reading them in context reveals that they are not nonsensical at all.
    –Brain does VERY well in illustrating just how nonsensical a vast majority of the Bible is.

    Once again, another proof that proves nothing.
    –Once again proof that you choose to remain willfully ignorant.

  • 2. Anti-Devil  |  July 10, 2008 at 6:26 pm

    punish could be excecution..who say that cant co exist?

  • 3. Anti-Devil  |  July 14, 2008 at 8:26 pm

    Luke,U claimed that Brain does VERY well in illustrating just how nonsensical a vast majority of the bible is..Lets put it this way…
    Brain does VERY well in illustrating just now nonsensical he is when he didnt know vast majority of the bible well and try to think it was a contradiction=D

  • 4. luke  |  July 15, 2008 at 2:35 am

    Luke,U claimed that Brain does VERY well in illustrating just how nonsensical a vast majority of the bible is..Lets put it this way…
    Brain does VERY well in illustrating just now nonsensical he is when he didnt know vast majority of the bible well and try to think it was a contradiction=D
    –Let’s put it this way: The Bible does VERY well in illustrating just how nonsensical the vast majority of it is by itself. People just point out it’s flaws with a little thought and critical thinking.

  • 5. Anti-Devil  |  July 18, 2008 at 12:31 pm

    maybe we can put it in another way”the bible does very well in illustating just how nonsesical vast majority of the people can be when they reject god by itself,people point out flaws with little thought and critical thinking with only motive to disprove god”


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