Proof #27: Think about Life after Death

January 10, 2008 at 4:19 am 4 comments

This proof is the perfect example of Marshall Brain’s overemphasis on the material, observable, physical world. Science is only concerned with materialism, because that is all that can be measured and observed. The soul would be the realm of philosophy and theology, neither of which is touched here.

First, Brain asks us what we who believe in an after suppose happens to mosquitoes or bacteria. This is not a valid objection, since the all that would be under consideration is the human soul.

Second comes the usual fundamental misunderstanding of what the soul is. The soul is not part of the body, as Brain supposes. The soul is separate from the body in the way that Jesus and the Father are separate from one another. This means that, though they work hand-in-hand with one another and each cannot work independently of the other, they are still separate entities. The soul is not part of the materials that comprise the body. It is part of the consciousness that makes you unique from every other person on the planet.

Brain’s article has not made cohesive case for the soul being imaginary. If humans are nothing but biological machines programmed for survival, he must make a case for consciousness as a part of that mechanism, not merely point out that our bodies produce innumerable chemical reactions that cause us to behave the way that we do. This doesn’t account for morality nor does it account for things that are unnecessary by any standard, such as music or art.

Consciousness, music, art, and morality are things that occur independently of our material existence and govern our decisions. Unless we are more than the sum of our parts, none of these things make any sense.

If Brain could account for even one thing along those lines, then perhaps he would solidify his case. As it stands, all he’s proven is that our bodies are collections of chemical reactions and that the soul isn’t a part of our body. This is taught by basic philosophy already. Brain has not revealed anything shocking here.

Fortunately for him, he has already anticipated this objection in his sidebar:

Whenever you hear people talking about “magic” and “other dimensions”, it is a clear marker for delusion. It is as simple as that. The soul is a completely imaginary concept, as is God.

There is a branch of physics called quantum mechanics, and it is part of mainstream science. Several experiments of quantum mechanics predict the presence of parallel universes that exist in tandem with our own universe. While this is a minority interpretation of these experiments, this is still treated and explored as a legitimate scientific hypothesis. Is Brain going to dismiss 51 years of research into this topic as completely delusional?

No one claims that the soul is magical, only extra-physical. It would seem like magic to some, perhaps, but no one is claiming that it is actually a product of magic. We are only asserting that the soul is beyond our current ability to fully understand.

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  • 1. Luke  |  June 15, 2008 at 6:29 am

    Wow, I actually agree with every word you say here. But I must point out that none of this has to have ANYTHING to do with Christianity or any other organized religion at all.
    I’ve also heard that when a person dies, he loses something like 14 ounces (I forget the exact number, so it may be less) of weight which is believed to be the soul.
    I’ll point out some links to some interviews of people regarding “new age” spirituality I mention in some other proofs on this website.

    (Free membership registration may be required to view the interviews)

  • 2. Mark  |  July 12, 2008 at 12:52 am

    It’s air. Souls are non-material.

  • 3. Anti-Devil  |  July 18, 2008 at 12:29 pm

    it is useless to say much unless a person is genuine in wanting to search for god,not wanting only to disprove him but finding all the reasons,imagine a world without hyptohetical situations and luke would think as much

  • 4. David  |  December 8, 2009 at 6:08 pm

    The problem with the concept of a soul is when did it occur in evolution? Did the cavemen have a soul? If man evolved from animals then when was the soul created? All of a sudden man had a soul?

    I’ve read every comment on these pages and have a great deal a respect for Luke because he has made thoughtful, well-reasoned, articulate responses. But I have to respectfully disagree here. I think the soul is yet another concept fabricated by men because we’re afraid to die.

    I do find it ironic that the author of the rebuttal is now embracing science as proof for the existence of the soul when he rejects science when it’s convenient to do so.

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