Proof #28: Notice How Many Gods You Reject

January 10, 2008 at 4:20 am 7 comments

I’ve already answered this one in Proof #3. The nonexistence of one deity is not itself evidence for the nonexistence of another deity. In fact, the very ability of human beings to conceive of a higher power is itself evidence for that higher power, or so says the ontological argument.

Just because Allah or Vishnu doesn’t exist, it does not follow that God Himself doesn’t exist. God not existing must be proved on its own grounds, not on the grounds that the others don’t exist.

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  • 1. happyandhealthyfamily  |  January 10, 2008 at 4:30 am

    Pretty cool blog.
    Amazing how many people blog against God, as people blog for Him.
    I was curious about your videos and the Pope reading the Bible.
    I am a revert to Catholicism after 10 years in a half dozen protestant churches.
    John 6, the whole chapter, is what brought me back.
    I can assure you the Pope does read the Bible. He is saved. And he does have a “quiet time” lasting several hours daily.

    Jeanne

  • 2. Luke  |  June 15, 2008 at 6:53 am

    Here are quotes from many famous atheists like Stephen Hawking, Einstein, and Carl Sagan just to name a few in regards to all Gods ever created. It’s funny just how true they all are.
    -When you understand why you dismiss all other Gods, you will understand why people dismiss yours.
    -What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.
    -The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.
    -Gods are fragile things; They may be killed by a whiff of science or a dose of common sense.
    -Religions are childish superstitions
    -If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for a reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed.
    -Religion has actually convinced people that there’s an invisible man living in the sky.
    -Suppose we’ve chosen the wrong God. Every time we go to church we’re just making him madder.
    -Religions are all alike, founded upon fable and mythologies.
    -An idea does not gain truth as it gains followers.
    -All religions are pieced together out of elements which seem so at odds with reason that any intelligence laughs at them.
    -I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied with not understanding the world.
    -As people become more intelligent, they care less for preachers and more for teachers.
    -Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence.
    -Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.
    -All religions have been made by men.
    -Gods always behave like the people who created them.
    -If the ignorance of nature gave birth to the gods, then knowledge of nature is calculated to destroy them.
    -Where knowledge ends, religion begins.
    -You can’t convince a believer of anything; Their belief is not based on evidence, but a deep-seeded need to believe.
    -It is better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however reassuring.
    -Faith is the determination to remain ignorant in the face of all evidence that you are ignorant.
    -The inspiration of the bible depends on the ignorance of the person who reads it.
    -Whatever we cannot easily understand we call God. This saves much wear and tear on the brain tissues.
    -All natural institutions of churches appear to me as human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind.
    -So long as the universe had a beginning, we could suppose it had a creator. But if the universe is completely self-contained, having no boundary or edge, it would neither be created nor destroyed it would simply be. What place then for a creator?
    -My view is that if there is no evidence for it, then forget about it. An agnostic is somebody who doesn’t believe in something until there is evidence for it, so I’m agnostic.
    -All religions bear traces of the fact that they arose during the intellectual immaturity of the human race before it had learned the obligations to speak the truth.

    • 3. JDSTATS  |  May 7, 2009 at 1:09 pm

      It is all well and good to quote intelligent men, but they are only intelligent by the standard of men, certainly not the standard of God. I have yet to meet a man who has never been wrong. BTW I find it interesting that most of your quotes originate from Carl Sagan and Stephen Hawkings, as Einstein certainly did believe in at least a god.

      Why I find that entertaining is that all of the hypotheses and theories that they have come up with are based upon assumptions. These assumptions have no proof nor ability to prove. They are not based on evidence, but are necessary for making their theories of the universe work. Thus the starting point for everything they believe is faith. Not faith in a God, but faith in a construct of their own puny human brains. It seems great irony to me that they ask people to accept their assumptions based solely off of faith in their own ego, but criticize others for having faith in a benevolent God. This is quite a bit more extreme than the pot calling the kettle black.

      What is also entertaining is there supposed adherence to science. They know very well that if the starting assumpion is that nothing supernatural willl be considered, then science can make no claims as to the existence of God. Not very scientific to be making their claims.

      “So long as the universe had a beginning, we could suppose it had a creator. But if the universe is completely self-contained, having no boundary or edge, it would neither be created nor destroyed it would simply be. What place then for a creator?”
      Most scientists now believe the universe to be 14.5 billion years old and that it indeed had a beginning. The known expansion of the universe does not seem to follow from a self-contained universe, nor would the existence second Law of thermodynamics make any sense. The idea of a self-contained universe can be considered entirely debunked, at least until the Second Law of thermodynamics is proven wrong.
      If I used this logic to say ” he was wrong thus a creator does exist.” You would of course say that I am wrong. Why? Because science cannot make any claims as to the existence of God. Yet these “intelligent” men, whose opinion you seem to weight so highly consistently speak out of both sides of their mouth. Saying look we’ve shown God doesn’t exist with such and such theory. When their theory is wrong, they then say “this doesn’t prove god’s existence” because science cannot make any claims as to the existence of God.

      It is not that they not intelligent, it is simply that they let their own athiest ideals get in the way of logic.

      For your purposes, you can follow the teachings of these “intelligent” men, but it will still lead to nowhere and nothingness. Even they are smart enough to know that they don’t have the answers.

  • 4. Anti-Devil  |  July 10, 2008 at 6:31 pm

    totally bias nonsense u have..God create such humans like u who don’t believe in him and continue in their childish sinnings and egos and think can go heaven by YOUR own humanly efforts which cant even get u anywhere.

  • 5. luke  |  July 10, 2008 at 9:41 pm

    Anti-Devil Says:
    totally bias nonsense u have..God create such humans like u who don’t believe in him and continue in their childish sinnings and egos and think can go heaven by YOUR own humanly efforts which cant even get u anywhere.
    –So you’re saying God created me as an atheist because he wants me to go to hell? This is fatalism. And why would you think that *I* think I can go to heaven if I think that heaven doesn’t exist? YOUR post here is the nonsense and is some pretty insane logic.

  • 6. Anti-Devil  |  July 14, 2008 at 7:44 pm

    No i didnt say god created athiest like u..i said..god created humans,who don believe in him..means u all chose not to believe in him.pls do not put words in my mouth thank you,u like to interpret people in the wrong way=D lol..fatalism?no way man.god create humans to have will and the right to choose?Did anybody force you to believe?we were just stating our point and hope u will know the love of god..simple enuff?Pretty insanse logic? thats only coming out from you mouth..and even if it is insane logic..at least it is still logic..it still beats having no logic and assume things right?=D

  • 7. Elmer  |  December 21, 2008 at 4:06 pm

    To Luke, You seem to leave out the part where it is stated that Stephen Hawking and Einstein are NOT atheists. They’re Deists. And quoting a bunch of scientists over the belief of God is equivalent of me quoting preachers over the beliefs of which color is superior to another. As a Deist myself, I find you’re “evidence” demeaning to actual people who observe the universe in a unbiased view.


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