Proof #32: Talk to a Theologian

January 15, 2008 at 7:51 pm 10 comments

The first half of this proof centers around prayer, which I’ve already answered here and here. Then Marshall Brain asks his imaginary theologian why Jesus doesn’t love his enemies, wants to murder half the population of the U.S., why God is sexist and supports slavery, and finally why the creation myth is complete nonsense.

None of this proved anything before, and therefore it doesn’t prove anything now. Brain is reading the Bible hyper-literally, leaving no room for accepted literary devices like metaphor or hyperbole. In fact, he dismisses those explanations as rationalizations. All this proves is that there is little hope of communicating with him on these topics.

Entry filed under: Jesus, Prayer, Science, Slavery, Women.

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  • 1. Mark  |  June 13, 2008 at 10:58 pm

    I take it mushy has never spoken with a theologian before. In fact, he’s never come close to it.

  • 2. Luke  |  June 15, 2008 at 8:04 am

    When you talk to a theologian, he’ll feed you the same crap every other religious fanatic feeds you in one form or another.

    Brain sums it up quite nicely in the end of his proof:
    The reason why you can’t read the Bible yourself, and the reason why only “trained theologians” can “interpret” a book written by God, and the reason why the Bible is actually, concretely incorrect in so many places (despite any interpretation) is because God is imaginary. If God were real, and if God had actually written a book (Or have been the true mastermind behind each “inspired” page, as you put it), the book would be brilliant and inspiring. The book would say things that are actually true. Prayer would work as it is actually described by the Bible. People would be left in awe by what they read the Bible. That is what “being perfect” is all about.

    –The Bible is more about “being cryptic,” than being perfect.

  • 3. Mark  |  June 16, 2008 at 6:27 pm

    1. luke, you’ve never talked to a theologian before, and it’s pathetically obvious.
    2. Anyone can interpret the Bible, but it is perhaps THE most complex document on the planet.

  • 4. Luke  |  June 17, 2008 at 12:38 am

    A theologian is a normal person capable of the same thought and reasoning as any other person. They are no more intelligent than anyone else who knows how to read and think. Why is a book to bring you close to a God more complex and cryptic than it is simple and straight to the point?

  • 5. Mark  |  June 17, 2008 at 8:32 pm

    Quantum physics is complex and cryptic, so I guess it’s all false. That’s your logic, anyway.

  • 6. Luke  |  June 17, 2008 at 11:43 pm

    Quantum physics is complex and cryptic, so I guess it’s all false. That’s your logic, anyway.
    –That is NOT my logic. Quantum physics is complex, because Quantum physics is complex, not cryptic. (unless math seems “cryptic” to you) . If it was false, then the Universe wouldn’t be the way it is, now would it? Don’t mix reality with fiction.
    God and the authors ultimately had the choice on how the Bible would be presented and how complex and cryptic it would appear. Their choice was VERY complex and cryptic.

  • 7. White  |  July 8, 2008 at 5:45 am

    notice i’m not replying here xD

  • 8. Anti-Devil  |  July 14, 2008 at 7:58 pm

    yea..i noticed too XD i am not replying too

  • 9. Luke  |  July 16, 2008 at 1:10 pm

    I’m not replying either…. DOH!!

  • 10. Legend and Lore  |  June 15, 2009 at 3:39 pm

    The reason the scriptures are written to be complicated is so that only people enlightened by the holy ghost would be able to interpret them. I guess you can say its another test.

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